http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Salvation Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Dear teacher, After reading 1 Corinthians 10 in my daily quiet times, i have a question? How do we explain about "fall away"? Is that spiritual or organizational terminology? Can salvation be gone or lost from a christian? If so, Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#584 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Hey there,Naek, Sin goes like James 1:13-16. We don't just loose salvation. It can be given away when we decide not to repent or to change the sin that has been brought to our attention by two or more witnesses.(1 John 1 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#588 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Oh and by the way I am not a Teacher but have been a disciple of Christ for 19 years.   HeidiHolly Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#590 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Thank you HeidiHolly Our churches need many teachers So: 1. "fall away" is an organizationa Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#593 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm I am not sure that restoration is an actual Bible term but I will check on it. But people need to have a term to mean that they are back to God which is what repentance is. When we repent we become justified which is just as if I'd never Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#620 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Thank you HeidyHolly. About holy spirit we could not find the answer yet. During restoration is he reload or re-active or re-visit (sorry for using that terms). And, can we say the death of thousands people of Israel in the desert is pa Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#631 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm   Naek wrote: Dear teacher,   After reading 1 Corinthians 10 in my daily quiet times, i have a question? H Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#638 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Thank you Byron. So far i can understand what you mean. But i still have some questions: 1. Is "fallen away" or "wanderer away" from church same with "fallen away" or "wanderer away" from God? 2. How do we know a real "fallen away" inste Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#652 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm I think i agree with mr. Douglas Jacoby in his article (http://douglasjacoby.com/view_article.php?ID=2841) where he says that leaving the local church is not the same as leaving God. God i Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#655 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Hey there All   I am so greteful( please forgive spelling) for the input you give. I know alot but you are the best. Thanks we need to all be Bereans.   In Christ, HeidiHolly    Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#657 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm Thank you Marks! Thank you HeidyHolly! If i may conclude, "fallen away" according to people or church is different with "fallen away" from God. Why? Because God is the true or the real judge. But church need to has something like standardization, policy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#669 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm I think it might be different, but not always.  I think God doesn't wait from us unjudgmental attitude,we should have judgment on discipling in church or interpreting the bible and so on, but we cannot have the finaljudgment or we should al Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#671 http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm 13:10 but when what is perfect comes, then what is partial will disappear.13:11 When I was a child, my speech, feelings, and thinking were all those of a child; now that I am a man, I have no more use for childish ways. Tue, 14 Oct 2008 6:35:35 GMT http://www.dtspace.net/orca/topic/Salvation.htm#765